Baca, Antonio (Santa Fe, NM), part 1

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11-23-1994

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Conversation with an inmate at the New Mexico State Penitentiary in Santa Fe. Los Pachucos movement, which started in El Paso and then extended to Los Angeles, CA. The Pachuco dialect created by the Pachucos. The pachuco, a Spanish language variety used by the Hispanic people who were born in the U.S. Antonio was raised in Armijo. He says that the new generations do not speak Spanish, when he speaks to them in Spanish they reply to him in English. He mentions that when he went to L.A. many people did not speak Spanish due to racial profiling and persecution of the police. He says that he learned to read in Spanish first and later he learned to read and write in English when he started school. Most of the students spoke Spanish when he attended school. He achieved school until the 11th grade. The neighborhoods and gangs [Gavillas] in Albuquerque in the early 1920s. Las gavillas, Pachuco words/Pachuquismos : la carrucha [car], calco [shoes], tramos [pants], la lisa [la camisa-shirt], carlango [la leva-sports jacket], la puela [frying pan]. Antonio used to work for a print shop in Albuquerque, he remembers that they published a magazine named 'Los Bilingües'. Memories of his youth years in Albuquerque, los bailes. The fiestas, they usually ended in brawls and fights. People from the different neighborhoods in Albuquerque did not get along well. La plebe de diferentes ciudades had different experiences with their language and culture. The regulations for safety in Albuquerque to avoid violence among different gangs o gavillas from other cities in the nation. His view of current gangs at the time of this interview, members of gangs are more violent and kill more with their guns. It is easier to get guns. Gang members shoot indiscriminately to their rivals. Talks about the use of marihuana and other drugs when he was young. He thinks that education would be the way to save the youths from getting involved in gangs and drugs. Some family history and origins of the Bacas in NM provided by Anselmo Arellano.

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